1 00:00:07,749 --> 00:00:02,869 all right atlantis uh we are ready for 2 00:00:12,470 --> 00:00:10,310 atlantis is ready for the event 3 00:00:14,629 --> 00:00:12,480 okay abc news this is mission control 4 00:00:21,990 --> 00:00:14,639 houston please call atlantis for a voice 5 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:27,910 atlantis this is abc news do you hear me 6 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:33,830 atlantis has you loud and clear 7 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,670 that's terrific 8 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,630 are you uh 9 00:00:46,470 --> 00:00:43,430 and so away we go atlantis 10 00:00:48,869 --> 00:00:46,480 i want to ask really all four of you 11 00:00:50,549 --> 00:00:48,879 your feelings on this being 12 00:00:57,189 --> 00:00:50,559 the final 13 00:01:01,110 --> 00:00:59,590 well i'll start off uh first let me say 14 00:01:04,149 --> 00:01:01,120 it's been an absolute honor to be a part 15 00:01:06,950 --> 00:01:04,159 of this final crew um this was uh this 16 00:01:08,870 --> 00:01:06,960 was a tough decision uh for uh there are 17 00:01:11,510 --> 00:01:08,880 a number of extraordinarily qualified 18 00:01:13,510 --> 00:01:11,520 people to do it um we took on the test 19 00:01:15,749 --> 00:01:13,520 of course we were just a crew of four 20 00:01:17,510 --> 00:01:15,759 and uh i'd like to think that we went up 21 00:01:20,070 --> 00:01:17,520 there did a bang-up job with the limited 22 00:01:22,950 --> 00:01:20,080 number of resources that we had and uh 23 00:01:25,670 --> 00:01:22,960 of course as uh as we 24 00:01:27,510 --> 00:01:25,680 just approached landing here uh we're 25 00:01:29,350 --> 00:01:27,520 going through a series of laughs 26 00:01:31,270 --> 00:01:29,360 yesterday for example the shuttle's 27 00:01:33,910 --> 00:01:31,280 robotic arm that we had used for 30 28 00:01:35,910 --> 00:01:33,920 years to deploy and retrieve satellites 29 00:01:37,510 --> 00:01:35,920 and we had some fantastic statistics 30 00:01:39,190 --> 00:01:37,520 read up to us 31 00:01:41,109 --> 00:01:39,200 the last time we put it away it's hard 32 00:01:41,990 --> 00:01:41,119 to believe we'll ever use it again 33 00:01:43,030 --> 00:01:42,000 but 34 00:01:44,149 --> 00:01:43,040 i'm going to pass the mic around a 35 00:01:49,590 --> 00:01:44,159 little bit i'm sure somebody else has 36 00:01:52,230 --> 00:01:51,030 sir 37 00:01:54,870 --> 00:01:52,240 it's been a 38 00:01:56,789 --> 00:01:54,880 an interesting training flow because as 39 00:01:58,630 --> 00:01:56,799 our commander said it there are a lot of 40 00:02:01,910 --> 00:01:58,640 a number of lasts and they started out 41 00:02:03,830 --> 00:02:01,920 small the last uh uh 42 00:02:05,270 --> 00:02:03,840 specific sim on a certain system and 43 00:02:06,230 --> 00:02:05,280 then they got bigger and bigger until we 44 00:02:08,229 --> 00:02:06,240 saw the 45 00:02:10,150 --> 00:02:08,239 the last row out of the uh space shuttle 46 00:02:11,190 --> 00:02:10,160 for the pad then it started getting real 47 00:02:12,710 --> 00:02:11,200 and every once in a while would kind of 48 00:02:14,949 --> 00:02:12,720 hit you and the same thing's happened 49 00:02:17,030 --> 00:02:14,959 during the mission uh we've gone through 50 00:02:18,949 --> 00:02:17,040 a number of different milestones and as 51 00:02:20,309 --> 00:02:18,959 you get the bigger ones and big ones uh 52 00:02:21,830 --> 00:02:20,319 behind you then you kind of have a 53 00:02:23,750 --> 00:02:21,840 chance to pause a little bit less a 54 00:02:25,110 --> 00:02:23,760 little bit more as the as the pressure 55 00:02:26,390 --> 00:02:25,120 is off and you can think wow you know 56 00:02:27,990 --> 00:02:26,400 this is the last time we're doing that 57 00:02:29,510 --> 00:02:28,000 and for me it kind of hits me when i'm 58 00:02:30,710 --> 00:02:29,520 sitting down the mid-deck sometimes at 59 00:02:32,790 --> 00:02:30,720 the end of the day 60 00:02:34,630 --> 00:02:32,800 while we eat and you finally have a 61 00:02:36,229 --> 00:02:34,640 chance just for a couple of minutes to 62 00:02:37,990 --> 00:02:36,239 grab bite to eat and fake and they can i 63 00:02:39,990 --> 00:02:38,000 think of the past crews that have sat 64 00:02:41,670 --> 00:02:40,000 down here and shared a meal and 65 00:02:43,110 --> 00:02:41,680 and think about wow this is the last 66 00:02:44,790 --> 00:02:43,120 time and then i'll think about the 67 00:02:46,070 --> 00:02:44,800 future of atlanta we're just we're not 68 00:02:47,990 --> 00:02:46,080 going to just retire we're going to 69 00:02:49,830 --> 00:02:48,000 share with others in the in the kennedy 70 00:02:51,110 --> 00:02:49,840 space center other people get chance get 71 00:02:54,309 --> 00:02:51,120 up close and see what a beautiful 72 00:02:59,030 --> 00:02:56,390 i'd like to ask you mission specialist 73 00:03:04,149 --> 00:02:59,040 sandy magnus do you expect to go into 74 00:03:07,509 --> 00:03:05,750 gosh that's really a hard question i 75 00:03:09,910 --> 00:03:07,519 have a feeling probably not but i have 76 00:03:11,990 --> 00:03:09,920 yet to talk with our chief about that 77 00:03:13,589 --> 00:03:12,000 um just like on my last mission i 78 00:03:15,750 --> 00:03:13,599 treated this mission as if it was going 79 00:03:17,030 --> 00:03:15,760 to be my last mission and tried to save 80 00:03:18,790 --> 00:03:17,040 her every moment 81 00:03:20,869 --> 00:03:18,800 i was on the space station and every 82 00:03:23,509 --> 00:03:20,879 moment we're here on atlantis and get 83 00:03:25,430 --> 00:03:23,519 those last glances out uh the window at 84 00:03:30,070 --> 00:03:25,440 our beautiful earth and try and print 85 00:03:35,990 --> 00:03:32,630 pilot doug hurley i realized she's a 86 00:03:37,750 --> 00:03:36,000 very delicate craft she is incredibly 87 00:03:40,949 --> 00:03:37,760 intricate to a degree that many of us 88 00:03:46,070 --> 00:03:40,959 can't comprehend but ultimately what's 89 00:03:49,910 --> 00:03:47,509 well um 90 00:03:52,149 --> 00:03:49,920 it's just uh it's a dream come true 91 00:03:54,789 --> 00:03:52,159 actually it it flies 92 00:03:58,149 --> 00:03:54,799 much better than our simulators uh show 93 00:04:00,710 --> 00:03:58,159 that you supply and uh it's just been an 94 00:04:02,550 --> 00:04:00,720 absolute pleasure to get to fly the 95 00:04:04,229 --> 00:04:02,560 yesterday for me to get to do the fly 96 00:04:05,990 --> 00:04:04,239 around and then uh 97 00:04:07,830 --> 00:04:06,000 you know some of the rendezvous burns 98 00:04:09,509 --> 00:04:07,840 that we did and uh we're really looking 99 00:04:11,589 --> 00:04:09,519 forward to bringing her home tomorrow 100 00:04:14,869 --> 00:04:11,599 but it's been just uh just a dream to 101 00:04:17,349 --> 00:04:14,879 get to do this 102 00:04:26,710 --> 00:04:17,359 doug what's it going to be like to land 103 00:04:31,670 --> 00:04:28,950 yeah doug passed it off to me because uh 104 00:04:33,270 --> 00:04:31,680 you know the the pilot is the pilot uh 105 00:04:35,270 --> 00:04:33,280 that left cedar lands and that doug 106 00:04:37,749 --> 00:04:35,280 would do an absolute fantastic job in 107 00:04:39,670 --> 00:04:37,759 answering that question but uh i've had 108 00:04:41,909 --> 00:04:39,680 one opportunity to land before it was 109 00:04:43,990 --> 00:04:41,919 extraordinarily exciting 110 00:04:45,670 --> 00:04:44,000 you know but probably the one word i 111 00:04:48,310 --> 00:04:45,680 could say is it works just like the 112 00:04:50,870 --> 00:04:48,320 simulator we have we have an in-flight 113 00:04:52,390 --> 00:04:50,880 simulator that that we use and practice 114 00:04:55,350 --> 00:04:52,400 with and 115 00:04:57,590 --> 00:04:55,360 i'm absolutely astounded at how closely 116 00:04:59,749 --> 00:04:57,600 uh the space shuttle replicates the 117 00:05:01,270 --> 00:04:59,759 in-flight simulator so uh we're gonna 118 00:05:03,430 --> 00:05:01,280 have a i believe a pre-dawn landing 119 00:05:07,990 --> 00:05:03,440 tomorrow if we land on time uh day or 120 00:05:12,310 --> 00:05:10,150 chris ferguson commander of the final 121 00:05:14,790 --> 00:05:12,320 mission of the 30-year space shuttle 122 00:05:17,189 --> 00:05:14,800 history i i want to ask you what do you 123 00:05:22,150 --> 00:05:17,199 see as the future of the american space 124 00:05:26,070 --> 00:05:23,749 well we were we were discussing this 125 00:05:28,230 --> 00:05:26,080 just the other day you know uh it may 126 00:05:30,950 --> 00:05:28,240 seem like uh um 127 00:05:32,469 --> 00:05:30,960 like a sort of an ending and i suppose 128 00:05:33,670 --> 00:05:32,479 to a degree it is you know the space 129 00:05:35,670 --> 00:05:33,680 shuttle's been with us it's been the 130 00:05:37,670 --> 00:05:35,680 heart and the soul of the human space 131 00:05:39,110 --> 00:05:37,680 flight program for about 30 years and 132 00:05:39,990 --> 00:05:39,120 you know it's a little sad to see it go 133 00:05:41,830 --> 00:05:40,000 away 134 00:05:43,510 --> 00:05:41,840 but you know we have to understand these 135 00:05:45,749 --> 00:05:43,520 systems to operate and maintain or 136 00:05:47,670 --> 00:05:45,759 extraordinarily costly and in order to 137 00:05:49,029 --> 00:05:47,680 go beyond because of course the shuttle 138 00:05:50,629 --> 00:05:49,039 can only stay in low earth orbit in 139 00:05:52,390 --> 00:05:50,639 order to go beyond low earth orbit again 140 00:05:53,990 --> 00:05:52,400 we're going to have to pause and we're 141 00:05:55,510 --> 00:05:54,000 going to have to stand down and we're 142 00:05:58,230 --> 00:05:55,520 going to have to channel some of those 143 00:06:00,390 --> 00:05:58,240 resources that we used uh to fund and 144 00:06:02,230 --> 00:06:00,400 operate the space shuttle so we can 145 00:06:04,309 --> 00:06:02,240 build another vehicle and we're going to 146 00:06:06,309 --> 00:06:04,319 go beyond again someday 147 00:06:08,230 --> 00:06:06,319 hopefully it's in the not too far 148 00:06:10,550 --> 00:06:08,240 distant future and we'll turn over this 149 00:06:12,469 --> 00:06:10,560 low earth orbit business this uh space 150 00:06:14,550 --> 00:06:12,479 station servicing business to uh to 151 00:06:16,070 --> 00:06:14,560 commercial companies but uh hopefully in 152 00:06:18,309 --> 00:06:16,080 the not too distant future you're gonna 153 00:06:20,390 --> 00:06:18,319 see a heavy lift vehicle manufactured 154 00:06:21,990 --> 00:06:20,400 and uh by our commercial partners 155 00:06:23,909 --> 00:06:22,000 designed by nasa in partnership and 156 00:06:26,390 --> 00:06:23,919 we're going to go back to the moon back 157 00:06:27,590 --> 00:06:26,400 to mars so the future is very bright but 158 00:06:28,950 --> 00:06:27,600 at the moment it's a little somber 159 00:06:32,230 --> 00:06:28,960 because we are saying goodbye to an old 160 00:06:35,990 --> 00:06:34,070 well colonel rex walheim mission 161 00:06:38,150 --> 00:06:36,000 specialist sandy magnus mission 162 00:06:40,309 --> 00:06:38,160 specialist colonel douglas hurley of the 163 00:06:41,990 --> 00:06:40,319 marines the pilot and to you christopher 164 00:06:44,629 --> 00:06:42,000 ferguson captain of the navy and mission 165 00:06:46,790 --> 00:06:44,639 commander i know that we here at good 166 00:06:49,350 --> 00:06:46,800 morning america joined with all of us 167 00:07:06,070 --> 00:06:49,360 watching at home in wishing you and 168 00:07:10,469 --> 00:07:08,070 atlantis iss 169 00:07:13,110 --> 00:07:10,479 this is houston acr that concludes the 170 00:07:14,550 --> 00:07:13,120 abc news portion of the event 171 00:07:28,830 --> 00:07:14,560 please stand by 172 00:07:35,749 --> 00:07:31,990 okay atlantis this is cbs news how do 173 00:07:41,830 --> 00:07:38,629 we have your latin players cbs 174 00:07:43,189 --> 00:07:41,840 uh fantastic fantastic 175 00:07:45,670 --> 00:07:43,199 we should be ready to go in just one 176 00:07:55,029 --> 00:07:45,680 second okay 177 00:07:58,390 --> 00:07:56,710 first the shuttle atlantis left the 178 00:08:00,950 --> 00:07:58,400 international space station for the last 179 00:08:02,950 --> 00:08:00,960 time tuesday and is now heading home as 180 00:08:05,189 --> 00:08:02,960 the 30-year long u.s shuttle program 181 00:08:06,869 --> 00:08:05,199 comes to a bittersweet end atlantis is 182 00:08:09,110 --> 00:08:06,879 scheduled to land in florida tomorrow 183 00:08:10,710 --> 00:08:09,120 morning just before 6 eastern time and 184 00:08:12,309 --> 00:08:10,720 joining us from space this morning is 185 00:08:14,790 --> 00:08:12,319 the crew of atlantis commander chris 186 00:08:16,950 --> 00:08:14,800 ferguson pilot doug hurley and mission 187 00:08:18,950 --> 00:08:16,960 specialist sandy magnus and rex walheim 188 00:08:20,710 --> 00:08:18,960 good morning to all of you this is a 189 00:08:24,869 --> 00:08:20,720 real treat for all of us here at cbs 190 00:08:28,390 --> 00:08:27,029 hey good morning to you cbs it's always 191 00:08:30,469 --> 00:08:28,400 a treat for us to be able to share just 192 00:08:33,589 --> 00:08:30,479 a little piece of the of the excitement 193 00:08:37,509 --> 00:08:35,190 commander ferguson let me ask you this 194 00:08:39,670 --> 00:08:37,519 first question this is a historic final 195 00:08:41,190 --> 00:08:39,680 journey home how has this mission been 196 00:08:43,029 --> 00:08:41,200 how bittersweet is it to know that 197 00:08:47,590 --> 00:08:43,039 you're coming home on the shuttle for 198 00:08:52,790 --> 00:08:49,910 well i'll tell you we have had just a an 199 00:08:54,550 --> 00:08:52,800 event filled and packed mission and 200 00:08:56,790 --> 00:08:54,560 you know what i kind of told everybody 201 00:08:59,030 --> 00:08:56,800 all along was that we were not going to 202 00:09:00,949 --> 00:08:59,040 fully appreciate the significance of the 203 00:09:02,870 --> 00:09:00,959 event until after the wheels had stopped 204 00:09:05,350 --> 00:09:02,880 and just yesterday in the mid deck i was 205 00:09:07,509 --> 00:09:05,360 talking to sandy about uh about the fact 206 00:09:09,350 --> 00:09:07,519 that yeah you know what i really do feel 207 00:09:11,910 --> 00:09:09,360 like it's coming near the end and i can 208 00:09:14,310 --> 00:09:11,920 almost sense uh that final wheel stop 209 00:09:15,670 --> 00:09:14,320 call and it's uh it's going to be tough 210 00:09:17,030 --> 00:09:15,680 it's going to be emotional moment for a 211 00:09:18,630 --> 00:09:17,040 lot of people who have dedicated their 212 00:09:20,310 --> 00:09:18,640 lives to the shuttle program for 30 213 00:09:21,590 --> 00:09:20,320 years but we're going to try to keep it 214 00:09:22,790 --> 00:09:21,600 upbeat we're going to try to keep it 215 00:09:24,949 --> 00:09:22,800 light we're going to try to make it a 216 00:09:26,949 --> 00:09:24,959 celebration of what of the tremendous 217 00:09:29,110 --> 00:09:26,959 crowning achievements that occurred over 218 00:09:31,350 --> 00:09:29,120 the last 30 years with the tremendous 219 00:09:33,110 --> 00:09:31,360 satellites have been deployed 220 00:09:34,550 --> 00:09:33,120 from the shuttle and of course the 221 00:09:37,110 --> 00:09:34,560 construction of the international space 222 00:09:42,389 --> 00:09:37,120 station 223 00:09:45,670 --> 00:09:43,990 well no mission is successful until 224 00:09:47,590 --> 00:09:45,680 you're finally on the ground i would 225 00:09:49,269 --> 00:09:47,600 have to say that up to this point it's 226 00:09:51,990 --> 00:09:49,279 been highly successful 227 00:09:54,870 --> 00:09:52,000 sandy rex doug every one of them uh you 228 00:09:57,269 --> 00:09:54,880 know we all put forth 110 we got about 229 00:09:59,430 --> 00:09:57,279 20 000 pounds of cargo transferred into 230 00:10:01,509 --> 00:09:59,440 and back out of the space station again 231 00:10:03,190 --> 00:10:01,519 uh we uh we have them all set they're 232 00:10:04,710 --> 00:10:03,200 they're in a good posture to wait for 233 00:10:06,949 --> 00:10:04,720 about a year until our commercial 234 00:10:08,949 --> 00:10:06,959 partners come on board and begin uh 235 00:10:12,389 --> 00:10:08,959 begin the resupply uh mission that the 236 00:10:15,750 --> 00:10:14,230 exactly the future of the space program 237 00:10:17,269 --> 00:10:15,760 right now i know everyone knows that the 238 00:10:19,350 --> 00:10:17,279 shuttle program is coming to an end 239 00:10:22,310 --> 00:10:19,360 after 30 years there is no vehicle that 240 00:10:23,990 --> 00:10:22,320 is ready to go right now where where is 241 00:10:29,030 --> 00:10:24,000 the future of the space program for the 242 00:10:31,990 --> 00:10:30,389 well the future is bright we're in a 243 00:10:33,990 --> 00:10:32,000 kind of a transition period which is a 244 00:10:35,269 --> 00:10:34,000 little bit uncomfortable as usual but 245 00:10:36,870 --> 00:10:35,279 what we're going to be doing is handing 246 00:10:38,710 --> 00:10:36,880 over the access to low earth orbit 247 00:10:40,069 --> 00:10:38,720 getting to the space station to and from 248 00:10:41,509 --> 00:10:40,079 to commercial providers who are going to 249 00:10:43,910 --> 00:10:41,519 build rockets and will get us to and 250 00:10:46,470 --> 00:10:43,920 from the space station that will free up 251 00:10:48,389 --> 00:10:46,480 nasa to do the heavy lifting of the 252 00:10:49,910 --> 00:10:48,399 beyond low earth orbit flights to go to 253 00:10:51,990 --> 00:10:49,920 places we haven't been for a long time 254 00:10:54,069 --> 00:10:52,000 or ever like the moon asteroid or maybe 255 00:10:55,190 --> 00:10:54,079 mars so it's a kind of a two-pronged 256 00:10:56,550 --> 00:10:55,200 effort and 257 00:10:58,389 --> 00:10:56,560 while we get to this transition part 258 00:11:00,310 --> 00:10:58,399 it'll be hard uh but we'll get there and 259 00:11:03,990 --> 00:11:00,320 we'll be going farther and farther and 260 00:11:06,790 --> 00:11:05,509 how's it been to just have four of you 261 00:11:08,310 --> 00:11:06,800 there i know normally the missions 262 00:11:10,069 --> 00:11:08,320 usually have more astronauts on board 263 00:11:11,750 --> 00:11:10,079 but it's just been four of you have you 264 00:11:16,949 --> 00:11:11,760 had a chance to really bond up there 265 00:11:21,590 --> 00:11:19,509 oh i i think definitely uh 266 00:11:24,230 --> 00:11:21,600 you know we we've had to just 267 00:11:25,750 --> 00:11:24,240 work so closely together and be so well 268 00:11:27,750 --> 00:11:25,760 coordinated because you know your 269 00:11:30,150 --> 00:11:27,760 typical shuttle mission there's six or 270 00:11:31,670 --> 00:11:30,160 seven folks so you tend to be working 271 00:11:33,190 --> 00:11:31,680 more with another person and there's 272 00:11:35,670 --> 00:11:33,200 been a lot of times where we've just had 273 00:11:38,230 --> 00:11:35,680 to depend on the other person to cover 274 00:11:40,389 --> 00:11:38,240 a separate task uh and 275 00:11:43,670 --> 00:11:40,399 you know i personally didn't i don't 276 00:11:46,230 --> 00:11:43,680 think i fully appreciated how much more 277 00:11:48,230 --> 00:11:46,240 work we would have to do with only four 278 00:11:49,190 --> 00:11:48,240 by six or seven so 279 00:11:50,629 --> 00:11:49,200 uh 280 00:11:53,910 --> 00:11:50,639 it's been a little bit of an eye opener 281 00:11:55,750 --> 00:11:53,920 because we we really have been uh just 282 00:11:58,230 --> 00:11:55,760 stretching it working very hard every 283 00:12:01,509 --> 00:11:59,750 sandy if i could just pose this last 284 00:12:03,269 --> 00:12:01,519 question to you what's your message to 285 00:12:05,110 --> 00:12:03,279 all those people the thousands of people 286 00:12:07,430 --> 00:12:05,120 over the years that have been such an 287 00:12:09,190 --> 00:12:07,440 instrumental part of the shuttle program 288 00:12:13,269 --> 00:12:09,200 as you now say goodbye to this program 289 00:12:16,550 --> 00:12:14,790 well you know really the heart and soul 290 00:12:18,230 --> 00:12:16,560 of the space program is the people that 291 00:12:19,509 --> 00:12:18,240 work in the space program it's a group 292 00:12:21,590 --> 00:12:19,519 of people 293 00:12:24,230 --> 00:12:21,600 unlike any other 294 00:12:26,230 --> 00:12:24,240 field i guess because everyone's so 295 00:12:28,310 --> 00:12:26,240 passionate and so dedicated they work so 296 00:12:29,509 --> 00:12:28,320 hard they take it to heart and it's true 297 00:12:31,350 --> 00:12:29,519 of all the people that i've met in the 298 00:12:32,870 --> 00:12:31,360 united states who work 299 00:12:34,949 --> 00:12:32,880 in very aspects of the space program 300 00:12:36,790 --> 00:12:34,959 it's also true the people who i've met 301 00:12:38,069 --> 00:12:36,800 uh in other countries through my work 302 00:12:39,990 --> 00:12:38,079 with the international space station i 303 00:12:41,590 --> 00:12:40,000 mean there is a huge number of people 304 00:12:43,590 --> 00:12:41,600 worldwide who passionately believe in 305 00:12:45,829 --> 00:12:43,600 space flight who dedicate their lives to 306 00:12:47,590 --> 00:12:45,839 it and it's because of these people that 307 00:12:49,350 --> 00:12:47,600 the shuttle program was so successful 308 00:12:50,870 --> 00:12:49,360 for the last 30 years we were able to do 309 00:12:52,790 --> 00:12:50,880 the amazing things that we were able to 310 00:12:54,870 --> 00:12:52,800 do and it's because of these people that 311 00:12:56,629 --> 00:12:54,880 the international space station has been 312 00:12:59,829 --> 00:12:56,639 so successful and will continue to be 313 00:13:01,750 --> 00:12:59,839 successful and this same group of people 314 00:13:03,590 --> 00:13:01,760 will have will carry forward their 315 00:13:04,870 --> 00:13:03,600 momentum and eventually get us out of 316 00:13:06,710 --> 00:13:04,880 low earth orbit to these other 317 00:13:08,870 --> 00:13:06,720 destinations that rex was talking about 318 00:13:10,710 --> 00:13:08,880 earlier 319 00:13:12,389 --> 00:13:10,720 and before we say goodbye sandy just one 320 00:13:14,389 --> 00:13:12,399 final question to you has anyone been 321 00:13:16,389 --> 00:13:14,399 giving you a hard time the crew maybe 322 00:13:18,069 --> 00:13:16,399 through emails or any messages from 323 00:13:22,870 --> 00:13:18,079 mission control about your space here 324 00:13:26,310 --> 00:13:24,710 well you know usually for events like 325 00:13:28,310 --> 00:13:26,320 this i like to leave it out because of 326 00:13:29,910 --> 00:13:28,320 those stripes that we are indeed in zero 327 00:13:32,470 --> 00:13:29,920 gravity i mean these guys have kind of 328 00:13:34,230 --> 00:13:32,480 boring hair so it's not so fun but they 329 00:13:35,990 --> 00:13:34,240 do uh they do get give me trouble 330 00:13:39,269 --> 00:13:36,000 occasionally about the medusa-like 331 00:13:42,389 --> 00:13:40,710 well it's an interesting look that's for 332 00:13:44,230 --> 00:13:42,399 sure hey we wish you all the very very 333 00:13:45,590 --> 00:13:44,240 best and we thank you so much for taking 334 00:13:46,710 --> 00:13:45,600 the time and talking with us this has 335 00:13:48,230 --> 00:13:46,720 been a treat for all of us here and 336 00:13:50,790 --> 00:13:48,240 we're so proud of you and we wish you 337 00:13:53,829 --> 00:13:50,800 safe return to planet earth 338 00:13:53,839 --> 00:13:59,269 thank you so much 339 00:14:03,910 --> 00:14:01,750 atlantis this is houston acr that 340 00:14:06,389 --> 00:14:03,920 concludes the cbs news portion of the 341 00:14:08,710 --> 00:14:06,399 event please stand by for a voice check 342 00:14:10,710 --> 00:14:08,720 from cnn 343 00:14:13,030 --> 00:14:10,720 pop up there all right ally pay 344 00:14:15,430 --> 00:14:13,040 attention to this next story 345 00:14:16,710 --> 00:14:15,440 atlantis this is cnn how do you hear me 346 00:14:20,230 --> 00:14:16,720 we've got a story to tell you about 347 00:14:25,269 --> 00:14:22,629 yes the toilet 348 00:14:26,230 --> 00:14:25,279 fantastic your anchor will be ali velshi 349 00:14:28,389 --> 00:14:26,240 ali 350 00:14:30,550 --> 00:14:28,399 this is a live to air 351 00:14:32,949 --> 00:14:30,560 interview um so stand by i'll give you 352 00:14:34,310 --> 00:14:32,959 an update as to how far we are away 200 353 00:14:36,790 --> 00:14:34,320 years and they say it's important 354 00:14:38,550 --> 00:14:36,800 because people in other uh parts of the 355 00:14:39,829 --> 00:14:38,560 world can't really afford uh the 356 00:14:41,509 --> 00:14:39,839 porcelain 357 00:14:42,949 --> 00:14:41,519 uh and the thinking here is that it is 358 00:14:45,590 --> 00:14:42,959 it has actually done more for health and 359 00:14:47,430 --> 00:14:45,600 hygiene to the toilet than anything else 360 00:14:49,110 --> 00:14:47,440 so let's find a new one that even goes 361 00:14:50,470 --> 00:14:49,120 further and becomes more affordable good 362 00:14:51,829 --> 00:14:50,480 story you're usually not a potty mouth 363 00:14:53,269 --> 00:14:51,839 but that was a good occasion to be one 364 00:14:54,550 --> 00:14:53,279 jackie jarrus in the weather center 365 00:14:56,470 --> 00:14:54,560 we'll check in with you a little later 366 00:14:58,550 --> 00:14:56,480 on hey the astronauts aboard the space 367 00:15:00,470 --> 00:14:58,560 shuttle atlantis are orbiting hundreds 368 00:15:01,829 --> 00:15:00,480 of miles above earth right now and 369 00:15:04,230 --> 00:15:01,839 coming up in three minutes we're going 370 00:15:06,389 --> 00:15:04,240 to talk to them live right here on cnn 371 00:15:07,990 --> 00:15:06,399 there they are standing by but first the 372 00:15:10,069 --> 00:15:08,000 quote of the day is from one of our 373 00:15:12,470 --> 00:15:10,079 congressmen can you guess which one said 374 00:15:14,870 --> 00:15:12,480 this quote you are the most vile 375 00:15:16,629 --> 00:15:14,880 unprofessional and despicable member of 376 00:15:18,389 --> 00:15:16,639 the u.s house of representatives you 377 00:15:20,870 --> 00:15:18,399 have something to say to me stop being a 378 00:15:22,629 --> 00:15:20,880 coward and say it to my face otherwise 379 00:15:24,470 --> 00:15:22,639 shut the heck up see who was talking 380 00:15:33,110 --> 00:15:24,480 about that right after this break it's 381 00:15:35,829 --> 00:15:34,629 okay atlantis we're in our commercial 382 00:15:41,110 --> 00:15:35,839 break 383 00:15:41,120 --> 00:16:56,870 okay we copy 384 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:03,189 atlantis is cnn two minutes away 385 00:17:03,199 --> 00:17:51,270 copy 386 00:17:51,280 --> 00:18:16,150 atlanta's about one minute back 387 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:42,070 about 15 seconds to your lead in 388 00:18:45,750 --> 00:18:43,990 30 years ago the first space shuttle 389 00:18:47,830 --> 00:18:45,760 launched into space this year the 390 00:18:49,909 --> 00:18:47,840 shuttle era ends let's take a look at 391 00:18:51,909 --> 00:18:49,919 the world's first reusable space vehicle 392 00:18:53,990 --> 00:18:51,919 the space shuttle system has got three 393 00:18:56,549 --> 00:18:54,000 main parts the orbiter that one there 394 00:18:59,990 --> 00:18:56,559 holds the crew and payload the huge 395 00:19:02,310 --> 00:19:00,000 orange external tank holds fuel and the 396 00:19:03,750 --> 00:19:02,320 two solid rocket boosters those things 397 00:19:05,350 --> 00:19:03,760 on the side provide most of the 398 00:19:06,630 --> 00:19:05,360 shuttle's liftoff 399 00:19:08,549 --> 00:19:06,640 lift during the first two minutes of 400 00:19:10,789 --> 00:19:08,559 flight now all the components are usable 401 00:19:13,430 --> 00:19:10,799 they're reusable except the big orange 402 00:19:16,070 --> 00:19:13,440 tank it burns up in the atmosphere after 403 00:19:17,990 --> 00:19:16,080 each launch now fully loaded the shuttle 404 00:19:19,430 --> 00:19:18,000 system weighs about four and a half 405 00:19:20,789 --> 00:19:19,440 million pounds 406 00:19:23,270 --> 00:19:20,799 for those of you who are counting that's 407 00:19:25,190 --> 00:19:23,280 about 300 elephants columbia challenger 408 00:19:27,510 --> 00:19:25,200 discovery atlantis and endeavor have 409 00:19:29,430 --> 00:19:27,520 taken 130 flights in total into the 410 00:19:32,150 --> 00:19:29,440 final frontier they carried more than 411 00:19:34,950 --> 00:19:32,160 350 people into space the shuttles have 412 00:19:36,470 --> 00:19:34,960 traveled more than half a billion miles 413 00:19:38,950 --> 00:19:36,480 more than enough to get to the planet 414 00:19:39,830 --> 00:19:38,960 jupiter 415 00:19:40,710 --> 00:19:39,840 2 416 00:19:43,830 --> 00:19:40,720 1 417 00:19:46,150 --> 00:19:43,840 0 and lift off the final liftoff of 418 00:19:50,390 --> 00:19:46,160 atlantis on the shoulders of the space 419 00:19:52,230 --> 00:19:50,400 shuttle america will continue the dream 420 00:19:54,310 --> 00:19:52,240 that was that stirring moment on july 421 00:19:56,310 --> 00:19:54,320 8th uh at the kennedy space center the 422 00:19:58,710 --> 00:19:56,320 final shuttle mission uh that took off 423 00:20:00,870 --> 00:19:58,720 that day is wrapping up now it began on 424 00:20:02,549 --> 00:20:00,880 july 8th with that incredible launch of 425 00:20:04,710 --> 00:20:02,559 the space shuttle atlantis there you see 426 00:20:06,149 --> 00:20:04,720 it heading toward the clouds just about 427 00:20:07,350 --> 00:20:06,159 to go through a cloudy day there were 428 00:20:09,510 --> 00:20:07,360 some questions as to whether it was 429 00:20:11,909 --> 00:20:09,520 going to take off but it did 430 00:20:14,390 --> 00:20:11,919 an historic uh takeoff that was watched 431 00:20:16,149 --> 00:20:14,400 by over a million people in person never 432 00:20:18,310 --> 00:20:16,159 mind those watching it on tv commander 433 00:20:20,710 --> 00:20:18,320 chris ferguson pilot doug hurley mission 434 00:20:22,870 --> 00:20:20,720 specialist rex walheim and sandy magnus 435 00:20:24,870 --> 00:20:22,880 have begun well they've been in space 436 00:20:27,270 --> 00:20:24,880 ever since that day they're still there 437 00:20:29,830 --> 00:20:27,280 there they are right now the shuttle is 438 00:20:32,070 --> 00:20:29,840 flying above the atlantic ocean those 439 00:20:33,830 --> 00:20:32,080 astronauts join us live from space where 440 00:20:36,549 --> 00:20:33,840 they're prepping for tomorrow morning's 441 00:20:38,470 --> 00:20:36,559 landing 24 hours from now 442 00:20:40,789 --> 00:20:38,480 thanks to all of you so much for joining 443 00:20:42,870 --> 00:20:40,799 us this is the last time the shuttle 444 00:20:45,190 --> 00:20:42,880 astronauts will ever be interviewed live 445 00:20:46,310 --> 00:20:45,200 on cnn let's start with chris ferguson 446 00:20:48,789 --> 00:20:46,320 the commander 447 00:20:50,470 --> 00:20:48,799 chris this is the last uh space shuttle 448 00:20:52,950 --> 00:20:50,480 mission when you think of all that's 449 00:20:55,350 --> 00:20:52,960 been done in space um and all that is 450 00:20:57,590 --> 00:20:55,360 being planned from here on it almost 451 00:21:04,230 --> 00:20:57,600 feels like you are going to be a veteran 452 00:21:08,310 --> 00:21:06,230 well first off uh hello allie it's uh 453 00:21:09,750 --> 00:21:08,320 it's great to speak with you here and 454 00:21:12,310 --> 00:21:09,760 welcome aboard the flight deck of the 455 00:21:13,590 --> 00:21:12,320 space shuttle atlantis on her final day 456 00:21:15,350 --> 00:21:13,600 in space 457 00:21:16,710 --> 00:21:15,360 you know i i don't i wouldn't say this 458 00:21:19,510 --> 00:21:16,720 is the end of the golden age it's 459 00:21:21,750 --> 00:21:19,520 certainly the end of perhaps a very uh 460 00:21:23,190 --> 00:21:21,760 specific age where just a select few can 461 00:21:25,270 --> 00:21:23,200 go into space i think that what we're 462 00:21:27,110 --> 00:21:25,280 going to see in the next few years is a 463 00:21:28,390 --> 00:21:27,120 very broadening horizon an opportunity 464 00:21:30,630 --> 00:21:28,400 for people who have never had an 465 00:21:32,950 --> 00:21:30,640 opportunity to go into space to at least 466 00:21:34,390 --> 00:21:32,960 get to low earth orbit and uh what we'll 467 00:21:36,549 --> 00:21:34,400 do is we'll turn over the reins of that 468 00:21:38,549 --> 00:21:36,559 business to our commercial partners and 469 00:21:40,149 --> 00:21:38,559 uh that'll enable nasa to take the 470 00:21:41,590 --> 00:21:40,159 resources we put into the shuttle and 471 00:21:45,830 --> 00:21:41,600 hopefully go beyond low earth orbit 472 00:21:51,029 --> 00:21:48,230 uh sandy magnus mission specialist uh 473 00:21:52,549 --> 00:21:51,039 you uh enjoy uh amongst other things 474 00:21:54,070 --> 00:21:52,559 that you do in space you enjoy cooking 475 00:21:55,510 --> 00:21:54,080 you've been known to uh cook up some 476 00:21:57,990 --> 00:21:55,520 special treats i know you made christmas 477 00:21:59,909 --> 00:21:58,000 cookies once and you made salsa for the 478 00:22:04,310 --> 00:21:59,919 super bowl you got anything planned for 479 00:22:07,669 --> 00:22:06,070 um i don't have anything planned but i 480 00:22:09,270 --> 00:22:07,679 may end up surprising the guys you know 481 00:22:10,870 --> 00:22:09,280 the problem with the tunnel missions are 482 00:22:13,190 --> 00:22:10,880 they're so busy and this one has been 483 00:22:15,510 --> 00:22:13,200 incredibly busy i haven't had time 484 00:22:17,270 --> 00:22:15,520 to do much space cooking but i did give 485 00:22:18,950 --> 00:22:17,280 some tips to the space station guys so 486 00:22:22,950 --> 00:22:18,960 if they had some time they could try a 487 00:22:25,990 --> 00:22:24,549 uh chris ferguson uh we're gonna be 488 00:22:27,909 --> 00:22:26,000 watching you very closely one of the 489 00:22:29,990 --> 00:22:27,919 cities i i spend my time in and live in 490 00:22:31,909 --> 00:22:30,000 is philadelphia you're a local uh from 491 00:22:33,750 --> 00:22:31,919 that uh area what do you got to say to 492 00:22:35,029 --> 00:22:33,760 the folks down on earth who are going to 493 00:22:39,190 --> 00:22:35,039 be watching you bring that thing in 494 00:22:43,110 --> 00:22:41,750 oh well you know i i guess uh what i 495 00:22:45,029 --> 00:22:43,120 said to the folks when they left mission 496 00:22:47,510 --> 00:22:45,039 control uh one of our orbit ships we 497 00:22:50,230 --> 00:22:47,520 spoke to them for the last time uh 498 00:22:51,510 --> 00:22:50,240 from orbit yesterday and i said i said 499 00:22:53,270 --> 00:22:51,520 to them as they walked out of the room 500 00:22:55,029 --> 00:22:53,280 to look up and make a memory and and 501 00:22:56,789 --> 00:22:55,039 i'll say that to everybody who has an 502 00:22:59,270 --> 00:22:56,799 opportunity to perhaps see the landing 503 00:23:00,950 --> 00:22:59,280 real time or see the uh see the shuttle 504 00:23:02,230 --> 00:23:00,960 on the runway is take a good look at it 505 00:23:03,510 --> 00:23:02,240 and make a memory because you're never 506 00:23:07,590 --> 00:23:03,520 going to see anything like this again 507 00:23:10,789 --> 00:23:09,510 uh rex how you feeling about this uh you 508 00:23:12,149 --> 00:23:10,799 guys are gonna land i mean normally 509 00:23:14,230 --> 00:23:12,159 there's a sort of a camaraderie there's 510 00:23:16,390 --> 00:23:14,240 a club of people who uh who have taken 511 00:23:18,070 --> 00:23:16,400 who've flown on the space shuttle that 512 00:23:23,110 --> 00:23:18,080 sort of club closes tomorrow what's your 513 00:23:26,149 --> 00:23:24,870 well i think it's uh it is historic in 514 00:23:28,470 --> 00:23:26,159 that nature but i think it's going to 515 00:23:30,070 --> 00:23:28,480 open up in a new era of space flight 516 00:23:31,750 --> 00:23:30,080 because right now there have been a 517 00:23:33,270 --> 00:23:31,760 tremendous amount of people who've flown 518 00:23:35,350 --> 00:23:33,280 space in the shuttle the vast majority 519 00:23:37,590 --> 00:23:35,360 that have ever flown in space we want to 520 00:23:39,430 --> 00:23:37,600 take that next step get access to earth 521 00:23:41,029 --> 00:23:39,440 orbit low earth orbit cheaper and more 522 00:23:43,029 --> 00:23:41,039 frequent and we can do that by 523 00:23:45,510 --> 00:23:43,039 partnering with our commercial partners 524 00:23:47,430 --> 00:23:45,520 and then that can allow nasa to really 525 00:23:48,710 --> 00:23:47,440 focus on the exploration going beyond 526 00:23:51,430 --> 00:23:48,720 low earthquake going to the harder 527 00:23:53,190 --> 00:23:51,440 destinations asteroids the moon or mars 528 00:23:55,190 --> 00:23:53,200 and i think it's going to be a an 529 00:23:56,630 --> 00:23:55,200 extremely enjoyable extremely exciting 530 00:23:58,149 --> 00:23:56,640 time for nasa it's just we have to get 531 00:23:59,990 --> 00:23:58,159 through this transition transitions are 532 00:24:01,830 --> 00:24:00,000 always hard but we'll get through it and 533 00:24:04,789 --> 00:24:01,840 we'll uh we'll be having a better 534 00:24:05,750 --> 00:24:04,799 tomorrow 535 00:24:07,669 --> 00:24:05,760 well the whole world's going to be 536 00:24:09,669 --> 00:24:07,679 watching uh when you all land tomorrow 537 00:24:11,029 --> 00:24:09,679 as you approach uh for the final time 538 00:24:12,310 --> 00:24:11,039 the landing of the space shuttle 539 00:24:14,950 --> 00:24:12,320 atlantis good luck to all of you 540 00:24:16,710 --> 00:24:14,960 godspeed uh have a safe next 24 hours 541 00:24:19,510 --> 00:24:16,720 rex walheim mission specialist sandy 542 00:24:22,310 --> 00:24:19,520 magnus mission specialist chris ferguson 543 00:24:23,909 --> 00:24:22,320 uh the the commander and doug hurley uh 544 00:24:25,750 --> 00:24:23,919 the pilot thanks to all of you and we 545 00:24:28,070 --> 00:24:25,760 look forward to watching this before cnn 546 00:24:30,230 --> 00:24:28,080 we'll cover it live uh tomorrow morning 547 00:24:37,669 --> 00:24:30,240 coming up on american morning at 8 10 548 00:24:42,149 --> 00:24:39,750 atlantis this is houston acr that 549 00:24:44,310 --> 00:24:42,159 concludes the cnn portion of the event 550 00:24:51,110 --> 00:24:44,320 please stand by for a voice check from 551 00:24:57,750 --> 00:24:53,750 atlantis this is fox news how do you 552 00:25:03,430 --> 00:25:00,070 hey uh welcome aboard and this is flight 553 00:25:07,990 --> 00:25:05,590 terrific my name is bill hemmer and it 554 00:25:09,750 --> 00:25:08,000 is an honor to spend the next couple of 555 00:25:11,549 --> 00:25:09,760 minutes with you i was 556 00:25:14,870 --> 00:25:11,559 there for the liftoff of 557 00:25:16,470 --> 00:25:14,880 sts-134 it was the shortest mission 558 00:25:18,710 --> 00:25:16,480 visible 559 00:25:20,470 --> 00:25:18,720 on earth before the shuttle disappeared 560 00:25:22,310 --> 00:25:20,480 into the clouds after about a total of 561 00:25:24,789 --> 00:25:22,320 12 seconds 562 00:25:27,269 --> 00:25:24,799 but 135 was a beautiful liftoff and 563 00:25:29,590 --> 00:25:27,279 congratulations to you as you wind down 564 00:25:32,230 --> 00:25:29,600 this mission okay here we go guys here 565 00:25:34,789 --> 00:25:32,240 are my questions to you i i've got four 566 00:25:36,310 --> 00:25:34,799 specific questions i'm gonna go 567 00:25:37,990 --> 00:25:36,320 uh in a bit of a different order i'm 568 00:25:40,549 --> 00:25:38,000 gonna start with the pilot doug hurley 569 00:25:43,430 --> 00:25:40,559 on this here we go three two and one 570 00:25:46,789 --> 00:25:43,440 astronaut mike fossum tweeted from space 571 00:25:49,350 --> 00:25:46,799 only a few hours ago a beautiful picture 572 00:25:51,510 --> 00:25:49,360 and he said this on his tweet when will 573 00:25:53,590 --> 00:25:51,520 such a beautiful ship dock again to the 574 00:25:55,750 --> 00:25:53,600 international space station 575 00:25:57,269 --> 00:25:55,760 and i think that's what you and so many 576 00:25:59,669 --> 00:25:57,279 people down here in america are 577 00:26:01,669 --> 00:25:59,679 wondering and i uh to pilot hurley you 578 00:26:04,230 --> 00:26:01,679 were driving at the time 579 00:26:10,070 --> 00:26:04,240 what was that separation like knowing it 580 00:26:13,750 --> 00:26:11,190 was uh 581 00:26:17,190 --> 00:26:13,760 just unbelievably breathtaking as we 582 00:26:19,190 --> 00:26:17,200 backed away from the iss yesterday um 583 00:26:21,909 --> 00:26:19,200 you know they planted such that we get 584 00:26:24,870 --> 00:26:21,919 we get out to about 600 feet as the sun 585 00:26:27,190 --> 00:26:24,880 rises uh behind us so it lights up the 586 00:26:28,710 --> 00:26:27,200 arrays first and then lights up the rest 587 00:26:29,750 --> 00:26:28,720 of the space station it was just 588 00:26:32,070 --> 00:26:29,760 beautiful 589 00:26:33,669 --> 00:26:32,080 and we really enjoyed uh 590 00:26:35,190 --> 00:26:33,679 you know one last lap around the 591 00:26:38,390 --> 00:26:35,200 international space station before we 592 00:26:40,470 --> 00:26:38,400 started heading home 593 00:26:43,269 --> 00:26:40,480 well it it is such a structure that has 594 00:26:45,110 --> 00:26:43,279 been built over their past decade and um 595 00:26:47,750 --> 00:26:45,120 really remarkable accomplishment for 596 00:26:49,430 --> 00:26:47,760 nasa and really the friends of nasa from 597 00:26:52,149 --> 00:26:49,440 all over the world the shuttle commander 598 00:26:53,830 --> 00:26:52,159 chris ferguson gene cernan is a man you 599 00:26:56,470 --> 00:26:53,840 know he was the last one to walk on the 600 00:26:58,310 --> 00:26:56,480 moon 39 years ago 601 00:27:00,149 --> 00:26:58,320 he wrote a piece that's out this morning 602 00:27:03,830 --> 00:27:00,159 he said if we don't watch where we are 603 00:27:06,789 --> 00:27:03,840 going we will end up where we are headed 604 00:27:09,110 --> 00:27:06,799 now what do you think about the united 605 00:27:11,590 --> 00:27:09,120 states relying on the russians 606 00:27:17,350 --> 00:27:11,600 for at least five years to get back in 607 00:27:20,950 --> 00:27:19,029 well you know first off let me say that 608 00:27:23,110 --> 00:27:20,960 the russians have been just incredible 609 00:27:25,269 --> 00:27:23,120 partners with us in space um you know 610 00:27:27,669 --> 00:27:25,279 you recall the columbia tragedy back in 611 00:27:29,350 --> 00:27:27,679 2003 if it weren't for our partners 612 00:27:30,549 --> 00:27:29,360 there we would have had to demand the 613 00:27:32,230 --> 00:27:30,559 space station which is certainly 614 00:27:34,389 --> 00:27:32,240 something we didn't want to do 615 00:27:36,630 --> 00:27:34,399 so uh they're they're great reliable 616 00:27:38,870 --> 00:27:36,640 partners now should we be dependent upon 617 00:27:40,710 --> 00:27:38,880 them no i don't think it's necessarily a 618 00:27:42,549 --> 00:27:40,720 case of us or them i really think that 619 00:27:44,070 --> 00:27:42,559 we need a redundant way we need two 620 00:27:47,190 --> 00:27:44,080 different ways to get people to low 621 00:27:49,430 --> 00:27:47,200 earth orbit and uh you know it's uh it's 622 00:27:51,750 --> 00:27:49,440 uh there's certainly a gap here and i 623 00:27:53,430 --> 00:27:51,760 have no particular issue with relying on 624 00:27:55,510 --> 00:27:53,440 partners because that's what partners 625 00:27:57,350 --> 00:27:55,520 are for to help you through perhaps a 626 00:27:59,909 --> 00:27:57,360 time where you need to pull back and 627 00:28:01,590 --> 00:27:59,919 regroup so uh you know it's it's a short 628 00:28:04,149 --> 00:28:01,600 hiatus but i'm very confident our 629 00:28:05,830 --> 00:28:04,159 commercial partners we've seen spacex 630 00:28:08,549 --> 00:28:05,840 already launch an orbital vehicle and 631 00:28:10,149 --> 00:28:08,559 recover it safely in the pacific ocean 632 00:28:12,149 --> 00:28:10,159 and there are other commercial partners 633 00:28:13,750 --> 00:28:12,159 that are not too far behind so uh it'll 634 00:28:16,070 --> 00:28:13,760 be a few years 635 00:28:17,750 --> 00:28:16,080 you know i'm a little uneasy with just a 636 00:28:19,830 --> 00:28:17,760 single string to orbit if you would in 637 00:28:21,590 --> 00:28:19,840 other words just one way to do it but 638 00:28:23,269 --> 00:28:21,600 we'll recover from this and we'll use 639 00:28:26,630 --> 00:28:23,279 the resources that were devoted to the 640 00:28:31,909 --> 00:28:29,350 yeah you think about that gap 25 years 641 00:28:33,990 --> 00:28:31,919 ago ronald reagan invited the friends 642 00:28:37,430 --> 00:28:34,000 and allies of the united states 643 00:28:39,510 --> 00:28:37,440 to join the u.s in in its space program 644 00:28:40,950 --> 00:28:39,520 and the result was that beautiful 645 00:28:43,590 --> 00:28:40,960 structure you left behind the 646 00:28:46,549 --> 00:28:43,600 international space station 647 00:28:47,830 --> 00:28:46,559 to specialist uh sandy magnus then on 648 00:28:51,350 --> 00:28:47,840 this question 649 00:28:57,430 --> 00:28:51,360 what does president obama need to do 650 00:29:02,549 --> 00:29:00,389 well stage i think we need a long-term 651 00:29:04,950 --> 00:29:02,559 space plan you know space flight is a 652 00:29:07,269 --> 00:29:04,960 very complicated business and it takes 653 00:29:09,190 --> 00:29:07,279 plans that last longer than two or three 654 00:29:11,590 --> 00:29:09,200 or four years we need a decades-long 655 00:29:14,310 --> 00:29:11,600 plan and we need to stay focused on that 656 00:29:17,350 --> 00:29:14,320 plan and we need to execute that plan um 657 00:29:19,269 --> 00:29:17,360 it's not it's not something you know 658 00:29:21,510 --> 00:29:19,279 doing operations in space and developing 659 00:29:23,029 --> 00:29:21,520 vehicles that operate in space requires 660 00:29:24,630 --> 00:29:23,039 that sort of long-term thinking 661 00:29:26,070 --> 00:29:24,640 long-term planning and long-term 662 00:29:29,590 --> 00:29:26,080 commitment so that's certainly a good 663 00:29:34,549 --> 00:29:31,990 um i hope you're right specialist rex 664 00:29:36,549 --> 00:29:34,559 walheim gets the toughest question today 665 00:29:38,389 --> 00:29:36,559 what was the best wake-up song elton 666 00:29:43,029 --> 00:29:38,399 john paul mccartney or michael stite 667 00:29:48,710 --> 00:29:45,669 uh they were all obviously just amazing 668 00:29:50,549 --> 00:29:48,720 and uh it uh it was uh quite a treat to 669 00:29:52,950 --> 00:29:50,559 sit there and uh in the dark of the 670 00:29:54,789 --> 00:29:52,960 space of mid deck to listen to bits of 671 00:29:56,549 --> 00:29:54,799 fog and then even more important in the 672 00:29:59,510 --> 00:29:56,559 song was the personal greetings that 673 00:30:01,110 --> 00:29:59,520 those fantastic artists took time out to 674 00:30:02,870 --> 00:30:01,120 say good morning to us it just meant the 675 00:30:05,590 --> 00:30:02,880 world to us so uh they were all 676 00:30:09,750 --> 00:30:07,750 i betta do thank you for your time come 677 00:30:13,830 --> 00:30:09,760 on home safely okay god bless you all 678 00:30:22,470 --> 00:30:13,840 and god bless america thanks today 679 00:30:27,190 --> 00:30:25,029 this is houston acr that concludes the 680 00:30:35,990 --> 00:30:27,200 fox news portion of the event please 681 00:30:43,350 --> 00:30:38,070 atlantis this is nbc news washington do 682 00:30:46,950 --> 00:30:45,510 hello nbc we have you loud and clear on 683 00:30:48,870 --> 00:30:46,960 the flight deck of the space shuttle 684 00:30:51,029 --> 00:30:48,880 atlantis 685 00:30:52,630 --> 00:30:51,039 well it's nice to see all of you last 686 00:30:54,230 --> 00:30:52,640 time we talked we were in houston and 687 00:30:57,430 --> 00:30:54,240 you guys were preparing for this mission 688 00:30:59,830 --> 00:30:57,440 this is tom costello um grant ferguson 689 00:31:01,830 --> 00:30:59,840 let me ask you first on that day back in 690 00:31:03,830 --> 00:31:01,840 houston you said to me that when you 691 00:31:05,669 --> 00:31:03,840 pull away from the space station that's 692 00:31:07,830 --> 00:31:05,679 when this is really going to hit you 693 00:31:10,389 --> 00:31:07,840 it's really going to resonate your 694 00:31:12,470 --> 00:31:10,399 thoughts uh on having pulled away now 695 00:31:14,149 --> 00:31:12,480 from the space station for the last time 696 00:31:16,870 --> 00:31:14,159 you're on the last day of the last 697 00:31:18,870 --> 00:31:16,880 mission for the shuttle um your thoughts 698 00:31:23,029 --> 00:31:18,880 on what all this means for for you and 699 00:31:26,149 --> 00:31:25,029 you know uh tom it's uh funny we were 700 00:31:28,710 --> 00:31:26,159 discussing this just a little bit 701 00:31:30,389 --> 00:31:28,720 earlier uh with uh with sandy down in 702 00:31:32,549 --> 00:31:30,399 the mid deck and i looked at her and i 703 00:31:35,190 --> 00:31:32,559 said gosh you know sandy it feels like 704 00:31:36,789 --> 00:31:35,200 it's really about to end and uh for uh 705 00:31:38,950 --> 00:31:36,799 for certainly our nine-month training 706 00:31:40,710 --> 00:31:38,960 flow and the first hectic twelve days of 707 00:31:42,630 --> 00:31:40,720 our mission we didn't think we would 708 00:31:44,149 --> 00:31:42,640 ever see the end but now we're beginning 709 00:31:46,630 --> 00:31:44,159 to i guess see the light at the end of 710 00:31:47,909 --> 00:31:46,640 the tunnel if you can call it a light 711 00:31:49,350 --> 00:31:47,919 but i'll tell you when you pull away 712 00:31:51,190 --> 00:31:49,360 from the space station it just makes you 713 00:31:53,430 --> 00:31:51,200 enormously proud that 714 00:31:54,870 --> 00:31:53,440 that not just our country but the global 715 00:31:56,710 --> 00:31:54,880 community can pull together the 716 00:31:59,509 --> 00:31:56,720 resources enough to construct that 717 00:32:01,269 --> 00:31:59,519 incredible vehicle in orbit so as the 718 00:32:03,590 --> 00:32:01,279 space shuttle does retire and we hate to 719 00:32:05,750 --> 00:32:03,600 see it go we know that it is living it's 720 00:32:07,990 --> 00:32:05,760 leaving an incredible lasting legacy and 721 00:32:09,509 --> 00:32:08,000 of that we're just extraordinarily proud 722 00:32:11,110 --> 00:32:09,519 and the space shuttle program should be 723 00:32:13,590 --> 00:32:11,120 extraordinarily proud of what is left 724 00:32:18,070 --> 00:32:15,430 sandy let me ask you to reflect on that 725 00:32:20,710 --> 00:32:18,080 as well uh you had some very poignant 726 00:32:22,870 --> 00:32:20,720 comments about america's role in space 727 00:32:24,470 --> 00:32:22,880 when we talked back in houston so 728 00:32:26,470 --> 00:32:24,480 as now you pull away from the space 729 00:32:28,549 --> 00:32:26,480 station you prepare for a landing uh 730 00:32:33,509 --> 00:32:28,559 your thoughts uh what have you reflected 731 00:32:38,070 --> 00:32:35,909 well as fergie said we've been really 732 00:32:40,470 --> 00:32:38,080 busy but when i was aboard the space 733 00:32:42,870 --> 00:32:40,480 station i stayed up a little late and 734 00:32:44,710 --> 00:32:42,880 spent some time in the cupola and just 735 00:32:47,110 --> 00:32:44,720 as as when i was living on the space 736 00:32:48,710 --> 00:32:47,120 station it's just it's amazing 737 00:32:50,470 --> 00:32:48,720 when you look at that orbiting 738 00:32:51,990 --> 00:32:50,480 laboratory and and think about all the 739 00:32:54,549 --> 00:32:52,000 people involved in buildings around the 740 00:32:57,190 --> 00:32:54,559 world and and our role 741 00:32:58,389 --> 00:32:57,200 in america is starting that program and 742 00:33:00,389 --> 00:32:58,399 getting everyone involved in that 743 00:33:02,149 --> 00:33:00,399 program and it just shows you what we 744 00:33:04,549 --> 00:33:02,159 can do we put our minds to it and focus 745 00:33:05,830 --> 00:33:04,559 our efforts and and commit and i think 746 00:33:07,990 --> 00:33:05,840 with that same 747 00:33:09,990 --> 00:33:08,000 amount of commitment that same amount of 748 00:33:11,909 --> 00:33:10,000 passion that same amount of enthusiasm 749 00:33:14,870 --> 00:33:11,919 we pretty much can do anything and and 750 00:33:16,230 --> 00:33:14,880 going to the moon or mars or an asteroid 751 00:33:17,990 --> 00:33:16,240 is certainly our next step and i 752 00:33:19,430 --> 00:33:18,000 anticipate we will be able to do that 753 00:33:22,870 --> 00:33:19,440 because of the people involved in the 754 00:33:27,110 --> 00:33:25,110 lex let me ask you you know through the 755 00:33:29,269 --> 00:33:27,120 miracle of technology i'm talking to you 756 00:33:32,630 --> 00:33:29,279 from a hotel room in orlando where i'm 757 00:33:34,950 --> 00:33:32,640 preparing for your landing but three and 758 00:33:36,950 --> 00:33:34,960 some of that it occurs to me the 759 00:33:39,029 --> 00:33:36,960 incredible technology as a result of 760 00:33:40,710 --> 00:33:39,039 what space has brought to america the 761 00:33:42,789 --> 00:33:40,720 the technological capability for 762 00:33:44,389 --> 00:33:42,799 communication whatever can you reflect 763 00:33:47,190 --> 00:33:44,399 back on what has shut what is the 764 00:33:49,350 --> 00:33:47,200 shuttle program done for america in 765 00:33:51,350 --> 00:33:49,360 terms of advancements in terms of 766 00:33:55,509 --> 00:33:51,360 technology and medicine and science and 767 00:33:59,750 --> 00:33:56,950 well it's the number one the first thing 768 00:34:01,350 --> 00:33:59,760 it is is a as a reusable spacecraft you 769 00:34:02,710 --> 00:34:01,360 just hadn't seen that before and there's 770 00:34:04,070 --> 00:34:02,720 really nothing like it and it's going to 771 00:34:07,029 --> 00:34:04,080 be a long time before you get something 772 00:34:09,589 --> 00:34:07,039 that is so complex so capable and yet 773 00:34:11,190 --> 00:34:09,599 reusable and then it gave us access to 774 00:34:13,030 --> 00:34:11,200 the low earth orbit on a somewhat 775 00:34:14,869 --> 00:34:13,040 routine basis and it allowed us to build 776 00:34:16,389 --> 00:34:14,879 the international space station as far 777 00:34:18,710 --> 00:34:16,399 as medical breakthroughs that's where 778 00:34:19,990 --> 00:34:18,720 the the real uh the real money is going 779 00:34:21,589 --> 00:34:20,000 to be here and so to speak is on the 780 00:34:23,030 --> 00:34:21,599 international space station we've now 781 00:34:24,550 --> 00:34:23,040 completed the international space 782 00:34:26,710 --> 00:34:24,560 station so now we can enter an area of 783 00:34:28,470 --> 00:34:26,720 utilization where we do that breaking 784 00:34:30,710 --> 00:34:28,480 that groundbreaking research where we 785 00:34:32,790 --> 00:34:30,720 can help uh find out how to make 786 00:34:34,550 --> 00:34:32,800 medicines target cancer better how to 787 00:34:37,190 --> 00:34:34,560 understand how the human body reacts to 788 00:34:38,950 --> 00:34:37,200 long times in space and also how to make 789 00:34:40,389 --> 00:34:38,960 an environmental system last for more 790 00:34:42,230 --> 00:34:40,399 than six months so we can take those 791 00:34:44,629 --> 00:34:42,240 long journeys to go up to the moon or to 792 00:34:46,230 --> 00:34:44,639 mars and so it's uh the space shuttle's 793 00:34:48,950 --> 00:34:46,240 enabled all that and it's done an 794 00:34:50,470 --> 00:34:48,960 absolutely magnificent job 795 00:34:52,389 --> 00:34:50,480 and doug currently when we were on the 796 00:34:54,869 --> 00:34:52,399 ground houston you talked specifically 797 00:34:56,950 --> 00:34:54,879 about how you wanted to pay tribute to 798 00:34:58,390 --> 00:34:56,960 all the hundreds of thousands of people 799 00:35:01,510 --> 00:34:58,400 who over the last 30 years have 800 00:35:03,109 --> 00:35:01,520 contributed to this to this program 801 00:35:05,190 --> 00:35:03,119 and given you the ability to be where 802 00:35:06,630 --> 00:35:05,200 you are right now so as you return as 803 00:35:09,190 --> 00:35:06,640 you prepare to return to the kennedy 804 00:35:10,950 --> 00:35:09,200 space center your thoughts on on all of 805 00:35:13,190 --> 00:35:10,960 those people and specifically the people 806 00:35:15,349 --> 00:35:13,200 on the ground now who are 807 00:35:17,349 --> 00:35:15,359 preparing for your landing and who many 808 00:35:21,910 --> 00:35:17,359 of whom may be out of a job within the 809 00:35:25,510 --> 00:35:24,069 yeah we we really uh 810 00:35:28,069 --> 00:35:25,520 you know we really just want to honor 811 00:35:29,670 --> 00:35:28,079 them and and we've done our best 812 00:35:32,390 --> 00:35:29,680 up to this time on the mission to do 813 00:35:33,910 --> 00:35:32,400 that and uh yeah we're we're very 814 00:35:35,990 --> 00:35:33,920 excited about seeing those folks 815 00:35:38,390 --> 00:35:36,000 especially the uh kennedy folks uh 816 00:35:40,150 --> 00:35:38,400 hopefully tomorrow morning and uh you 817 00:35:42,310 --> 00:35:40,160 know just try to share the memories of 818 00:35:43,670 --> 00:35:42,320 the mission with them and uh and and 819 00:35:47,030 --> 00:35:43,680 once again just 820 00:35:49,589 --> 00:35:47,040 convey how proud we are of them and what 821 00:35:51,910 --> 00:35:49,599 they've done over this 30-year program 822 00:35:53,349 --> 00:35:51,920 it it's just 823 00:35:55,270 --> 00:35:53,359 so inspiring 824 00:35:57,510 --> 00:35:55,280 to see the passion that all these folks 825 00:36:00,069 --> 00:35:57,520 have for space business 826 00:36:02,710 --> 00:36:00,079 and you know they put their careers into 827 00:36:04,150 --> 00:36:02,720 this business into the into this vehicle 828 00:36:06,069 --> 00:36:04,160 and uh you know 829 00:36:07,670 --> 00:36:06,079 we owe it to them to just honor what 830 00:36:09,430 --> 00:36:07,680 they've done and honor their 831 00:36:11,030 --> 00:36:09,440 accomplishments and 832 00:36:12,630 --> 00:36:11,040 you know we were we were just lucky 833 00:36:14,150 --> 00:36:12,640 enough to be the ones that got to fly it 834 00:36:17,750 --> 00:36:14,160 but you know they're the ones that 835 00:36:20,870 --> 00:36:19,270 i'll tell you what we'll wrap it up 836 00:36:23,430 --> 00:36:20,880 there it's been an honor to talk to you 837 00:36:24,870 --> 00:36:23,440 we wish you a tremendous success on your 838 00:36:26,550 --> 00:36:24,880 return visit we'll be on the ground 839 00:36:31,109 --> 00:36:26,560 waiting for you god speed and safe 840 00:36:31,119 --> 00:36:35,190 thanks tom 841 00:36:40,390 --> 00:36:38,230 atlantis this is houston acr on behalf 842 00:36:43,030 --> 00:36:40,400 of the audio control room the nasa 843 00:36:45,430 --> 00:36:43,040 television production team and the jsc 844 00:36:47,589 --> 00:36:45,440 public affairs office it's been an honor 845 00:36:49,430 --> 00:36:47,599 to serve with you over the years and on 846 00:36:50,550 --> 00:36:49,440 this last mission of the space shuttle 847 00:36:58,069 --> 00:36:50,560 program 848 00:37:01,270 --> 00:36:59,589 whenever we hear your voice we know 849 00:37:03,270 --> 00:37:01,280 we're in space and it makes us smile 850 00:37:05,190 --> 00:37:03,280 thanks so much for uh for helping us 851 00:37:07,109 --> 00:37:05,200 bring the word to everybody in america 852 00:37:08,150 --> 00:37:07,119 about what we're doing up here and we 853 00:37:09,750 --> 00:37:08,160 look forward to hearing your voice 854 00:37:11,750 --> 00:37:09,760 aboard the international space station 855 00:37:20,829 --> 00:37:11,760 and wherever we go beyond the space 856 00:37:25,270 --> 00:37:23,750 there thank you for that atlantis and 857 00:37:28,550 --> 00:37:25,280 mission control houston would also like 858 00:37:32,230 --> 00:37:28,560 to thank 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